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The person the headline refers to is a webdev. What job is that getting rid of?


Web dev doesn’t exist in a vacuum.

Web dev for e-commmerce displaced brick and mortar retail. Web dev for streaming displaced video rentals and audio sales.


Web devs are a tiny proportion of the employees needed for e-commerce.


Without them (and mobile devs, though there’s increasing cross-over), e-commerce doesn’t get done.

Ergo, web devs are directly contributing to the outcomes that e-commerce enables.


Ok, but so is everyone involved with building the fulfillment centre, the sorting machines, the roads for delivery, the trucks, the railways...

If it sounds like I'm including a lot of jobs, it's because every non-service job in the history of the post-industrial revolution economy has revolved around making things more efficient. Software development is not some uniquely evil domain.


I agree. I was just answering the upthread question, which seemed to imply that web devs have no part in it.


Cashiers, some officials, a lot of the “personal contact with a customer” gets transferred to web. I am not complaining, just answering the question.


Same goes for a truck driver, road builder, railway worker, etc.

FWIW, I spent many years as a cashier. It's not something I find inherently more valuable to the world. If we could trust people not to steal, we wouldn't need them.


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Could you please stop crossing into personal attack? Your account has unfortunately been doing this a lot and we ban accounts that do that.

I don't want to ban you, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.


Nothing in my comment was a personal attack, only a reflection of GP's own behaviour. Go ahead and ban the account if calling out these comments as written is unwelcome. But beware the behaviour you welcome by leading it unchallenged.


I don't want to ban you! I hope to persuade you to stop using personally pejorative language in your HN comments, which you've unfortunately been doing a lot of.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44089951

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44089808

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44088236

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44088105

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44040448

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44040666

If you don't like the phrase "personal attack" we can call it something else, but the point is you can't treat other commenters this way on HN, regardless of how wrong anyone is or you feel they are.


If those comments are the problem rather than the messages to which they're responding, then ban me. But again, beware the discourse you welcome, because bad ideas deserve to be challenged.


I think you're probably overestimating the provocation in other people's comments and underestimating the provocation in your own. This is something nearly everyone does.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...


If you'd like to rephrase this in a less asshole-y way that takes into account my other replies to this comment thread, I might consider replying.


Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I don't actually see which guideline it's breaking. It's a serious offer.


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I don't think it's webdev stopping you from getting a customer facing role.




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