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Any news on how the e2e support is progressing? The FAQ [0] says "End-to-end encryption is coming shortly to clients for both 1:1 and group chats to protect user data stored on servers, using the Olm cryptographic ratchet implementation. As of October 2015 this is blocked on implementing the necessary key distribution and fingerprint management." and I can't see much floating around on Github.

I tried asking in the group chat as well but nobody seemed to know.

[0]: https://matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html#how-secure-is-this


E2E is our main focus at the moment - sorry for missing the question; we must have missed it. There's nothing on github as the E2E stuff is all hosted on https://matrix.org/git/olm. The FAQ is old - we have finished the 1:1 ratchet and group ratchet and almost all the key distribution stuff. Currently wiring it into all the SDKs and checking it works and then getting it audited. We should be ready to yell about it in N weeks where 2<N<5.


> Do they even exist anymore?

Maybe not S40 exactly but there are still plenty of "dumb" phones.

It was only 3 years ago that smartphones started to outsell dumb phones [0]. In America, there are still ~24 million "dumb" phone shipped each year [1].

They are still around, people do still use them.

[0]: http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/13/smartphones-outsell-dumb-ph...

[1]: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/157114/20160510/u-s-flip-p...


I have a "dumb" phone but I don't expect it to be able to run a XMPP client. Even if it could, it's screen is too small and there are only numeric keys.


And yet you can send SMS with a dumb phone; why wouldn't be able to at least send such simple messages with XMPP or any messaging client ?


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