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I still want a full IDE for Mac that is equivalent to VS and that is more mature than Xamarin Studio (VS Cose doesn't count). Is rather have Visual Studio for Mac than Xamarin Studio.


JetBrains' Rider may fit that bill in the very near future https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/


What if I want to write F#? JetBrains has said F# isn't planned.


Then best stick with Xamarin. There's still nothing better for F# dev on Mac currently (and unfortunately).


Xamarin have some very smart people on the case.


Limited code-completion, but Atom has an F# plugin, you could also just use any plain old text editor. This is what I have been doing, personally, and I just use FAKE for builds.


Yeah, Ionide is pretty good. I personally use vim-fsharp because Atom is flaky and VSCode doesn't have a good vim emulator yet, and vim-fsharp does the trick well enough for most of my usages.

Apropos of nothing, I recognize you from #ubuntu-offtopic on Freenode. Hiya!


As a Xamarin developer for the past year, I don't want to use Visual Studio, I want to use Xamarin Studio.

Visual Studio is slow and doesn't work near as well as Xamarin Studio for many core development tasks. Not to mention, it's completely hamstrung by its dependency on a Mac build host. VS integration needs to step up, dramatically.


I tried using VS some time ago and didn't find anything I don't already have in other IDEs like Eclipse (I mostly write C++ and Java code). Except that it is faster.

Perhaps I missed something that could increase my productivity... Would you care to tell what features make VS so powerful for you?


IMO, being faster is a significant feature that increases productivity and it shouldn't be casually dismissed.


The difference is not really big and if that's the only thing, I think I will stay on Linux/Mac.


With the direction Microsoft has gone in the last 18 months, Visual Studio for Mac and Linux might very well turn into a thing. I like it - Microsoft is returning to its roots as a supplier of cross platform solutions.


I believe VS uses WPF pretty extensively. And neither switching from WPF or porting WPF would be easy. So I don't think VS is going to be ported anytime soon (otherwise, why have VS Code in the first place?).


But then you wouldn't have any reason to run Windows.




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