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Paris is much less expensive than the bay area, but more expensive than the average US city. In fact, it's barely less expensive than NYC, one of the most expensive US cities.

Also, if you are working remotely you cannot command a bay area salary.



You can command a bay area salary. There are a lot of companies out there who cannot find skills because everyone is in the bay area, and want to work at the coolest company possible.

There are a lot of uncool companies who need those same skills, and will pay to get them.

Hell, they pay consultants far more to fly in and do the work if they can't find someone remotely.


would you be willing to name some of those companies who need and will pay for said skills? I think it's time programmers get away from the propaganda of the big 5 being cool, which artificially supresses the market imho.


Look at any advertisement. That company needs skilled technical people.

Naming companies just puts undue focus on them, when there are so many.


i been remote for the last 6 years working on 2 different bay area companies.

on both occasions i commanded a Bay Area salary. still do. remote from Spain.


Hi, spanish dev here.

Currently working in London and looking at options after Brexit referendum.

How do you get paid by US companies if you don't live there? Do they hire you as freelancer?

Do you have to open a USD bank account in Spain or do you need one in the USA and then transfer the money over to your spanish account?

Thanks.


So you are saying NYC is much less expensive than Bay Area?


Yes. Specifically, rents are much higher in SF/SV than in NYC. SF has even higher rent than Manhattan. Most of NYC (not Manhattan or Williamsburg) can be quite reasonable.


Does SF gave rent brokers you have to go through? Manhattan you have to pay first/last rent to a broker plus deposit you need around 8-$12k to sign any lease up front


Brokers fee is one month, not two, and the outer boroughs are much cheaper.


Broker's fees of 15% or even 20% seemed to be fairly common last time I was looking in Manhattan several years ago. It's definitely not pegged at one month anymore nowadays even in Brooklyn.


I moved from SF to Manhattan and found the prices and the process of finding an apartment easier. Most of my San Francisco friends dare not move or move to Oakland. People move here in NYC all the time, paying roughly the same in rent accounting for yearly inflation related increases.


No not really. Anywhere "reasonable" will have poor quality housing and 1hr commutes on the horrible subway system.


Yes, especially since car ownership is optional in NYC.


NYC is significantly cheaper than SF.




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