Many of those are not about programmers, they are about the employees physically moving products around in warehouses.

That's not better, it's just a different class of employee.

Then let's talk about the factory workers that manufacture Apple devices. Let's talk about the employees scanning books for Google http://www.e-flux.com/journal/the-artist-leaving-the-googlep... .

I don't think it's very relevant to what this thread was about, programmer working conditions.

Exactly. Most of the people who say "Oh its not that bad at Amazon" are white collared workers who are living in their bubble and don't know the hardships of different class of employees.

The perils of non-white-collared workers are of little relevance when discussing whether or not a company is a good workplace for white-collar workers. When you go for an interview about a programming position, you probably don't ask your potential employer about working conditions of security contractors or people working at company's factory floor in another town.

Most of the white collar people here have never been to a town that Amazon opened a warehouse in and actually talked to people there. I have, and reception is generally quite good. Anti-Amazonism is something I associate with upper middle class people.