Hey, I love this idea and am working on something similar (an alternative events discovery and promotion tool for cities). I see that a lot of you folks here are also working on similar stuff.
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I'm a big fan of live music, and even flew to Japan to go to the PunkSpring festival. If you'd like data for Taiwan, please get in touch!
There's also a large, free dataset from Apple with the whole iTunes Store database. Search "iTunes EPF" for more info. It's 55 GB uncompressed. Perhaps you could use this to generate affiliate links and earn money if people buy the songs in your playlist.
You can pick a location on a map and it will generate a playlist for pretty much any city. I haven't done much work on it since then, but had a decent response when I posted it to Reddit. I've been considering open sourcing it, but not sure if there is interest.
My approach:
- Use SeatGeek's API to find venues/artists near the user
- Query Spotify's search API for artists with these names to get artist IDs (which you need to do other interesting things with Spotify's API)
- Filter results from Spotify search queries with fuzzy matching between artist names and results
- Use Spotify's API to get the top 5-10 most popular tracks for each artist, and randomly select ~30 to add to a playlist
Spotify's search API cannot be queried in batch which is a pretty frustrating bottleneck. I mainly solved this by caching artist name / ID pairs, but this would only really be effective if I got a lot of traffic (I don't).
Also, SeatGeek's API was a lot more friendly than Songkick, which I considered using. But SeatGeek didn't seem to have data for many venues overseas, so I had some users outside the U.S. that were disappointed that their queries would usually fail because the app couldn't find enough tracks.
Very cool. Haven't been back to NYC in awhile but good to see the Rockwood Music Hall is still a hot venue. My main suggestion would be to populate the page with the Spotify data before having the user commit to signing into Spotify. Yes, have the call to action be at the top, but have the below-the-fold content be a list view of venues and artists. The map is nice but I don't think that's the most relevant view for NYC, since it's so easy to get around town between any popular venue.
My perspective is based on my assumption of, at the start of the week, what most people want to know but don't yet know. They know the venues, they just don't know (without tedious inspection) who is playing where. Maybe it'd make sense to have the genre of the acts more prominently shown. I'd be more immediately interested in looking at the list of alt rock bands who are in town that week, and then looking up the venues they'll be at. As opposed to having a list of venues and acts, and having to scan it to see if any of those acts are in the genres I prefer.
Devil is in the details. There's just no place to reliably source all of the events that are happening. Sure you can get the ones that sell tickets through ticketmaster, or whatever, but nobody reliably aggregates all the smaller concerts. So this will always be badly incomplete. Discovering all those shows is on of my main use-cases for facebook right now - it's the one place (almost) all of them show up.
A few years back I made a hobby project like this -- it scraped the website of the local free weekly paper (since they have pretty much every concert listing, large and small) and then did a youtube search on band names so you'd see an embedded video or two for each show.
I think most larger cities (and smaller cities if they have a large university) have such a newspaper (e.g. Village Voice in NYC, Willamette Week in PDX, The Mercury in Seattle, etc)
Maybe it's better in the states, but where I live the papers don't come close to being a complete listing. They will have the major stuff, and some of the smaller shows too - but a large part is still missing. And it's not a small city - 2 mln people, capital, and quite an active music and culture scene.
Indeed, this sadly will not be scalable to certain cities where the data source is incomplete. The author had posted this on the Austin subreddit a few weeks ago and I asked him if the source of the data was Showlist Austin (http://showlistaustin.com/) and he/she confirmed that it was in fact at least one of the sources for the Austin data. It's great that we have that site for Austin but it's probably the only place I've ever been that has that complete of a list of good local shows.
Yes, the first website I ever made was in this space for Philadelphia. I wanted to make show listings with playable songs for every night of the week. I just manually found listings and found youtube links and built it. Every site I found always had a bunch of cruft. This was in 2011, figured it had improved by now. :)
Ideas:
-Open up to the main local bookers (in my country that would be one firm, Mojo), monetization via referrals?
-other awesomeness would include: local clubs and pubs access via API, same monetization.
-Main few hits per band and then select bands that "sound like" selected view of the most listened to bands.
-Anything that makes me discover worthwhile bands in my area that give me an unexpected nice night out without having to notice the social media multiverse (my favorite teen bands from 20 yrs ago got together last summer and I noticed last week.. guess I haven't got any of my teen surf punk friends anymore)
Oh this is a great idea! Any chance to get a plain list of musicbrainz IDs for the nerds with their own music collection instead of the ever so ephemeral and privacy-infringing Cloud?
Hi anc84, I made http://www.muusical.com and was imagining it being something like musicbrainz but with actual, playable music that is streamed in from youtube or soundcloud. I haven't been actively working on it in a little while but would love to find other kindred spirits who share the vision. After taking a step back, possibly the best approach is to just use the data from music brainz and use my site to attach the playable music. My meta data editing interface is very rudimentary compared with musicbrainz.
Let me know if you're interested or know anyone who is. You can get me on twitter @patrickjbradley. Thanks.
Nice execution! I made something similar a few years ago, except it generated a playlist of previews from iTunes with an option to connect Spotify. It worked by finding all venues within a certain radius from you using the Foursquare API, and correlating that with the JamBase and Songkick APIs. It was a bit ahead of its time because not enough people had Spotify, and their catalog wasn’t big enough to cover artists coming to some of the smaller venues. I might still own the domain rockout.fm if you want something a bit more catchy.
Kind of OT but has anyone succeeded in creating playlists through YouTube's API? I had a kind of similar idea to this and wanted to create automatic playlists but failed on the integration part.
EDIT: Ok, looks like this is very easy with the v3 API. This was quite a long time ago.
I haven't done that but I've worked with the youtube api in the past. In general I am really really interested in making sites connected with music. My site muusical.com was my last legit attempt. If you have any interest in connecting, please message me on twitter @patrickjbradley. I'm dying to find partners who share a common passion and hopefully similar vision.
I don't know if my music profile is somehow... weird, but i get a lot of random movies and audio books, mostly long (1-3 hours) and old (~1900-1940s). Not what i expected, but i actually found some interesting stuff. Thanks!
I'll work on this tonight to make it better at handling errors where it will force to find the most recent one that isn't blank, because if there are no songs in the most recent entry it will return a blank list.
I had a friend mention this to me too recently. I just grab the artist's top 3 tracks and add them to your playlist. Perhaps I could use setlist.fm to put songs more likely to be heard at the upcoming shows. Thanks!
I took it a step further to make a playlist out of the bands most recent setlist, so its similar, but not the same. It's currently just a cli that allows you to make a playlist on your google play music based on a band's most recent setlist, provided it was posted on setlist.fm. Most of the bands that I listen to have the setlist.fm posted basically the same night of the show.
Would love to help, leverage, or even refactor some of your stuff so that we could use virtually any music playing platform to do this.
This is a great idea. My partner made a playlist of Boston Calling bands. It was helpful for a festival when you don't know all of the bands (the festival bands play concurrently too so you couldn't see all the music..)
I think this is a really interesting idea. Spotify has a feature where you can see if an artist is going to be playing near your location by going to the artist's page and going to the 'concert' tab. However, I don't think they have one to go the other way i.e "find all artists performing in one location"
Someone at the SXSW Hackathon two weeks ago worked on a similar thing [1]. The difference in their project was that it looked at the artists you listened to and then created a list of artists that you would know who would be coming to the venue.
I like your idea in that you're creating a channel for people to discover new bands.
You can search by city in both the mobile app and desktop app to take a look at concerts outside of your area. Really handy. They mostly show only artists who you listen to frequently/genres you like
Hey thanks for the info. And yeah, I just wanted to provide a different way to discover new music instead of some algorithm. I think a venue’s calendar is just another nice way to do this. Enjoy.
Very cool. I have had a suspicion that Google/Spotify has been sort of tracking these things for a while. The features that Google music and Spotify have for discovery seem to correlate with artists touring with other artists I like pretty consistently.
This is great, I waste a LOT of time doing playlists to figure out my festival schedule. So time consuming. Can you do google play please? I had to junk Spotify years ago because streams would constantly interrupt and jitter.
I’m assuming aggregating the booking calendars is a fair amount of manual work but the value of this to audiences interested in lesser-known artists should be significant. I would love to see smaller, mix-use and under-age venues included.
I like the idea. Maybe you could leverage Songkick API to support more cities ? (I moved to Tel Aviv recently and it's really hard to spend the time to find out which concerts are worth going to)
Ben from Songkick here and we'd love to work with you on this. If you reach out to me I'd be happy to sort you out with API access. ben[at]songkick[dot]com
It's a shame you decline any apps with monetisation ideas. I think it would be better to offer a paid API service a la Google APIs than to have so many engineers reinvent the wheel. Oh well, I guess the music industry and logical business models never did go hand in hand :/
Yeah, just wanted to ask if you use an API to get events?
I've been working on something in a similar direction for Vienna. Tried to get SongKick API access, but they declined me. I also used BandsInTown on a project, but it's a bit limited. These days I'm just using Facebook Events, which is ok, but not perfect – can't get all the events in a particular city automatically. Managed to manually overcome this though.
But great work! Tried the app out and I really like it. Followed you on Twitter if you want to keep in touch. Would be nice to have some MusicEventsHackers group to discuss these topics :)
I've made a similar app at a local hackathon sponsored by Sabre: it would search your playlists on Spotify in order to identify your favorite artists. Then it would match the artist presentation schedule and find the best place in the world to watch the artist's concert based on ticket price + travel expenses. Something like: "the best city to watch U2 is Buenos Aires in August - while there you can also visit the Recoleta neighborhood and ..."
Some feedback though: I found the tagline "It's a pain to look up every band coming to your city. Now just follow your favorite venues and genres and get a weekly Spotify playlist of upcoming music." intuitive but the heading "Stop Typing Every Band in Town" didn't make sense to me.
I'd go with something more straightforward like the title used for this Hacker News post. I immediately understood what that meant.
I created something similar, though it just creates a youtube playlist that you can listen in your browser: http://touristplaylist.com/, you can pick a date range and the location, it uses songkick api
This is great! Right now I use last.fm, bandsintown, and Spotify to search for live shows. However none of them actually generate a playlist. I will definitely be using this to discover new music. When will I be able to add my own city?
May have been suggested but would love to be able to toggle all venues in a certain city so I don't have to go searching for venues that I may be interested in.
Depends on the motivation mix: a Spotify implementation would not undo any learning that happened along the way, and a showcase/attention goal might even benefit from being the independent original to a corporate clone.
Seems like a different thing: https://news.bandsintown.com/home BIT is cool if you want to know who's in town and you know who they are, this for people who'd rather just hear tracks and if they like them go 'cool, I like whoever this is, I'll get tickets'
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or this new subreddit:
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