Please don't do tit-for-tat flamewars like this on HN. The further they get to the right of the page, the nastier and more repetitive they get, and curiosity has been lost long ago.

You guys have been going at it in other subthreads too. That's not what this site is for. In the future, please take a step back and refrain.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html