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I think the decision to tank on the 380 was a sign, yes. I think Airbus is carrying a large debt, as a result of under-achieved sales on the unit, and a huge sunk cost. I have read stuff implying it barely got above its investment costs including R&D, before it stopped. The Max is possibly a bigger hole. the 787 was a huge hole, because of the battery fire.

Comac, I wouldn't know. Bombardier is now in J-V land which may be recognition of the limits of what they can do with their own money.

I could also say it reaches into Rolls-Royce. Engine leasing is funding engine development: if they stop future sales, because people select GE engines, are they actually in profit purely on the operational charge model of the engines sold?



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