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As someone who could never break 1750 on Zone, hat off to both of you. Even though I no longer play, I did follow the scene closely for a while until a few years ago. To my surprise DauT is still a top player, although one of his teammate is clearly the indisputable No. 1 by a distance compare to anyone else.


Yes, the Viper is truly the Hamilton amongst his fellow peers. Impressive! And he is now showing his tricks to his already AoE II infected girl friend Debbie! This is so cool! Way too few women play this game.

1750: This is also a great ranking. Competition there is pretty tough. Congrats! I remember playing lots of 1700er dudes whenever I started out with my smurf accounts, and I had plenty off em.


To me, DauT is the Mikhail Tal of AOE while Viper is Bobby Fischer.

I've watched endless videos of DauT and Viper playing AoE. ZeroEmpires has done a lot to popularize AoE streaming. Here's his YouTube channel if anyone is interested - https://www.youtube.com/user/ZeroEmpires


T90official is also suuuuupercool!

He also started as a pretty mediocre player and now deserves his rank among the best players! He shares a lot of his secrets and is also #1 commentator now for AoE II:DE related games: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZUT79WUUpZlZ-XMF7l4CFg

Also watch his Twitch account.

Spirit of the Law is also a great resource: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChzLZJo-SxuPHz-oYKAIC_g


T90 to me is such a confusing phenomenon. I've never understood why a low-rated player who (to me) did not have a particularly entertaining personality was the most-subscribed AoE2 player on twitch. Is he actually good now? How high-rated is he compared to Daut and Viper and so on?


T90 is on the 2000-2100 range currently, he just reached top 100.


He already beat Viper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tkf-BMMq-8

T90 is doing great. Also improved massively his commentator skills. Give him a try! :)


Ah, yeah, I kind of meant in a serious match though. In that match viper made 3 docks on a land map and no feudal army.

As T90 himself said, "The trouble with playing viper is that if viper memes me, and I win, people just say oh T90 isn't good, viper wasn't trying. And if I lose, well, T90 can't even beat viper when he's not trying. So it's a lose-lose situation." Too true.

I see he is #96 on rankings right now though, that's terrific. Being able to beat #1 isn't the only measure of success and I don't mean to imply otherwise.


Maybe because

> He shares a lot of his secrets

? Teachers don't have to be the best at the _thing_, they should be really good at explaining concepts. Maybe T90 is the people watch when then want to go from zero to average?

I don't want to be coached by the best tennis player in the world, it would be a waste and I couldn't do any of the things they could teach me.

A solid above average player that knows my limits and can explain how to correct flaws would be much better (for me).


He's likeable, non-offensive and casual. Watching people try too hard at a game is draining sometimes.


Here's a long video of them facing off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLNu7ELg4mk

(Their first round runs up to the 39:00 mark.)


Nilpferd is my favorite: https://www.twitch.tv/nili_aoe


Viper is pretty defensive and grindy. I think Carlsen is a much better comparison.




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