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I'm surprised how shocked people are about this new thing from Apple. Both Google and Microsoft are already doing this stuff and have been since 2014[0][1]. How come Apple is getting such a huge amount of hate for this, but nobody even seems aware of the others already having implemented such technologies.

I also hope nobody here ever gets mad about the rampant child pornography going around on platforms like Kik, because that would be incredibly hypocritical.

0: https://www.theverge.com/2014/8/5/5970141/how-google-scans-y...

1: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/08/10/microsoft-scans-...



Yeah, you expect it from Google and MS; Apple was the one tech giant that promised to value your privacy, so now that they've turned on that, there are no mainstream options left. Hence the strong dismay.

(Honestly Apple probably doesn't really have an option -- the govt wants this, and I'm sure they can exert all kinds of leverage to get it if Apple doesn't comply.)


Unless Apple is starting to view YOUR phone as THEIR property - this is an invasion.

Android does not scan your phone. Google scans content uploaded to ITS machines - because content hosted on ITS machines is a liability.


Right and how you reduce that liability is to do the scanning client-side and reject the upload/send. Google does this with Drive uploads and WhatsApp does it on message sends.

You can't be in hot water for hosting/distributing CSAM if it never gets on your servers/network in the first place.


It has to do with the way Apple advertises being a herald of privacy.

Also your links say that Google and Microsoft scan e-mails on the cloud. Not phone storage as in Apple's case.


> Also your links say that Google and Microsoft scan e-mails on the cloud. Not phone storage as in Apple's case.

Another confirmation that Google and MS have access to the data you store in the cloud and Apple does not. It's very unfortunate that scanning this locally is viewed as a negative in stead of a positive.


What confirmation? Apple already has access to your cloud data:

FBI 'persuaded Apple to halt iCloud encryption' - https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51207744




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