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> You can't dismiss the fact that hiring python is hard.

I deny that hiring Python is hard beyond “hiring is hard”.

> You think you're getting a good programmer, because they know all the leetcode tricks,

Unless I want someone for a role that is very much like reproducing leetcode tricks, I don't think I would think someone is good for it because they are good at those. In fact, leetcode is mercilessly mocked as being almost completely irrelevant as a positive signal for hiring, though it may be useful as a filtering tool to reduce an overwhelming volume of applicants to a manageable one where high rates of both false negatives and false positives, but some slight advantage over just randomly discarding applicants, is tolerable.



Do you have absolute control over the hiring of every person you work with? Not all of us do.


> Do you have absolute control over the hiring of every person you work with?

That's...a complete topic switch and irrelevant. The discussion I was responding to is about the challenges facing whoever does have control.


Well considering I made the initial statement, no, it's not. A company I used to work for once hired exclusively from the must-have-Python-experience pool (not my decision) and the cto fawned over how well he solved this "well-known-leetcode problem", and he utterly failed my problem, which tests for actually useful competency... of course he was hired -- and turned out to be a complete lemon. I remember that hiring round distinctly, everyone we interviewed for that position (n~10) was competent for the leetcode problem but never did basic things in my interview like "write tests", "don't try to make a complicated algorithm", etc, even when told explicitly to do/ not to do those things.

Outside of that I interviewed several of my friends (I know them from a non-programming context, so I don't know their competency) who were predominantly python devs, and completely noped out of them for the same reasons (and these were my friends).




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