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"The problem of educating the educators is a problem which the democrat forgets in his enthusiasm for educating the pupils."

When's the last time a single person on hn dared to look at the curriculum of the average degree in education? It consists of courses that any person with the slightest degree of intelligence would run from screaming. I'm interested in education but you couldn't pay me to attend one - it's 99% fluff and nonsense.

Because the bigger problem is not the existence or nonexistence of exclusive institutions but of the kind of people that would render such an education educational. Because neither the gifted nor the wise - particularly if male - go into education today.

Perhaps a reason for the poor track record of modern education in producing any geniuses on par with those of the past and the long-standing dry spell of great works. And the larger trend of exclusive education producing little but "really excellent sheep".

"Our system of elite education manufactures young people who are smart and talented and driven, yes, but also anxious, timid, and lost, with little intellectual curiosity and a stunted sense of purpose: trapped in a bubble of privilege, heading meekly in the same direction, great at what they’re doing but with no idea why they’re doing it."

In which case perhaps it's best it's done away with. It appears past fixing, the rot infiltrating to the core of the bureaucratic machinery.

Edit: fixed/clarified/extended ending.



Well the best and brightest going into finance are helping "discover value"


Exactly. All that energy and time and money to "cultivate" gifted individuals only for them to crawl into that black pit. And the irony is that this education only helps them make that choice with self-awareness of how absurd and culturally destructive it is. But it is where the rewards are, and so that's where they go.

To quote Colacho again "Reeducating man will consist of teaching him once again to value objects correctly: that is, to need few." Then perhaps we might have some hope.


What do you define as a great work? What do you define as a genius on par with the past?

This reeks of cognitive bias.


Where have you been the last 20 plus years? This is a subject that's been wrestled with in many high profile books and articles over that period and beyond, and how this is not self-evident to anyone who reads is beyond me.

Here's one article on it I have on hand, if for some reason a search brings up nothing: https://scholars-stage.org/a-few-more-notes-on-the-dearth-of...




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