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> They're all trash, but that's besides the point.

No, that's exactly the point. Just because you make something doesn't mean it was progress.



R&D is not useless.


Law of diminishing returns.

We're talking about a simple platform of people relaying updates of 140 characters with a comment section and a feed algorithm to aggregate the content to everyone with a focus on prolonging everyone's engagement time while also following guidelines on what's "politically correct". There's only so much you can do, unless you venture out into manipulating public discourse, or striving to become a nation-state (or at least its propaganda machinery) or taking over the world (with all the imaginable internet services provided by you - email, storage, encyclopedias, news etc).

At some point you should stop and think about your core business. And at some point you should realize that the law of diminishing returns applies. And at some point you should realize that it's fine to provide a stable service to a stable amount of users with a stable amount of features. Not that much R&D required.

Or, rather, this is how our society would have to work in order to stay healthy. Living on a planet with finite resources while using them up like they're not is a sure-fire way to doom. We already know enough about farming for example to make it sustainable. We just don't know how to do it in a way where we don't cut down production considerably and starving a lot of people in the process. Not a nice topic to bring up i your election speech.

But it's nice to ride the train since things seemingly move forward thanks to rising inflation (which is due to the problem in the first place) and the price of your product can go up.

Oh, I might've misunderstood you as well.

/remindme 20 years


Regenerative agriculture practices can allow us to make farming sustainable without cutting down production. In fact, we can actually increase production — or at least avoid loss of production due to soil depletion.

https://doi.org/10.1177%2F0030727021998063


you should make a separate HN post about this


There have already been multiple posts about regenerative agriculture, like this one.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27809279


Economic growth is not only driven by the use of new resources but by the increasingly efficient use of existing resources. The real problem is stated in Jevon's paradox[1], that demand is increasing faster than supply, regardless of efficiency, which points the the real real problem, which is that the population is increasing too quickly (though it may slow down and become stable).

Provide females around the world access to education, birth control, and opportunity in the job market and this problem will fix itself. To do that, however, would mean allowing the kind of discourse that Twitter is inclined suppress and many of its more vocal users would call "racist" i.e. being able to criticise cultures that don't give females these opportunities.

And we're back to Twitter and free speech.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox


> it's fine to provide a stable service to a stable amount of users with a stable amount of features

like RSS?


Calling that R&D is disingenuous. You can learn valuable things on your way to making stupidity, of course, but that's not R&D.

Twitter does a fair amount of OSS, though I can't see a lot of contributions that probabilistically out of Spaces.


> Calling that R&D is disingenuous. You can learn valuable things on your way to making stupidity, of course, but that's not R&D.

I don’t necessarily disagree with your take, but for tax accounting, a lot of “stupid” programming counts as R&D.

But more importantly, stupidity is in the eye of the beholder or hindsight, or both.

e.g. I would have called a streaming service for gamers to be watched by adoring fans utter stupidity. Maybe that’s also why I’m not rich.


> I would have called a streaming service for gamers to be watched by adoring fans utter stupidity. Maybe that’s also why I’m not rich.

Is Discord profitable yet? Reported revenue and users is up significantly post-covid, but that does not necessarily mean there are profits. Your instincts may be under-estimated.


Agreed.

However, releasing every half-baked misfeature that comes out of R&D is useless.




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