I will agree that the change of not having a automatic stream of income, to having a stream of income, is quite a successful, satisfying feeling. I've not yet done enough simulations and calculations on whether or not UBI or what else is best. At least UBI would be more efficiently spent gov dollars than any other program. Every dollar the government spends is probably about as 10% as effective as just giving the money directly to people, but then it creates jobs, culture, etc. Like I said, I dunno what the perfect mix would be, will do some simulations one day to design the perfect societal/governance policies.. or maybe AI will beat me to it. Optimizing for happiness while reducing unhappiness, without scapegoating... what were we talking about? kinda went on a rant there.