Come one, Arch users complaining that Ubuntu was not using SystemD was not honest, the Arch users were not using Ubuntu or Upstart to have a clue what they are talking about. And related with SystemD debate, you have alot of people that are not system admins or can't write a C program or a good bash scrip[t having an opinion because they read a blog post , I wish we all can't determine when we have no idea and just abstain. So about SystemD , I have no idea if is better or worse, my experience with init systems is almost zero so I should shut up.

There were a lot of hather, sure there were some valid criticism but you can't invalidate the fact they were haters, and if we would want to waste our time we could read those old topics and find them but we have better things to do.