FYI you're writing this post on a device which is a product of millions of ideas and inventions all of them refined, abstracted and parametrized thousands of times, if not even more.
My browser is cpp program. Say, 10 layers are typical. Then, there's a libc + ui linux code. Usually in c, so even less layers. Say, 10 more. Then, there are sycalls annoying the kernel from time to time. Pretty shallow, btw, 5.
That's 30 roughly speaking. Maybe 40.
Java + clojure combo is not impressed, not at all.
