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IMHO there's a huge gap between "trust this dell hardware not to contain hardware implants" vs "trust cloudflare warp to MITM every SSL connection I make"


The conflation between "Zero Trust" and "Zero Trust implemented with third-party infrastructure" is unfortunate - I think it's reasonable to feel uncomfortable with a third party being in a hyper-privileged position to effectively assert access to your infrastructure, but that's not inherent to Zero Trust and we shouldn't frame the conversation in such a way that assumes that it is.


Ha, MITM SSL... My pet peeve is crowdstrike having root/admin RCE backdoor on every server/client OS. Talk about trust.


That’s orthogonal to zero trust, however, and either way it’s still relative: if you have a policy requiring traffic inspection it’s not unreasonable to think that Cloudflare is going to be safer than some random box in the basement run by the average enterprise network team.


How so? Do you mean because a hardware mod would be physically detectable, maybe?




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