Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

I love thinkpads but the T480 is basically objectively worse in every single aspect except price and repairability. I don’t think I can go back from all day battery and quiet CPU during high loads.

I could definitely use my T450 for however long I need and know I can replace parts, but I’d rather have macs for 5 years and upgrade for another performance bump. Some things are just nicer



> ...except price and repairability.

And keyboard.


Disagree. The M1 keyboards are just as good as any other keyboards now that they ditched the bad butterfly keyboards. I've used a Macbook with the older keyboards and they were certainly inferior to every single other laptop but the new keyboards I really can't complain about


> The M1 keyboards are just as good as any other keyboards

But ThinkPad keyboards are not "any other keyboards". For me, ThinkPads are the only laptops where I don't feel the need to connect an external keyboard. I'd say ThinkPad keyboards are as superior to typical laptop keyboards (including the MacBook keyboard) as Apple trackpads are superior to typical laptop trackpads (including the ThinkPad trackpad).


And trackpoint. And running your OS of choice, free of "call home" crap if you want.

But apart from that, what did the Romans do for us?


Trackpoint is very divisive, you either love it or hate it. I come on the hate side, so moving to trackpoint from Apple's trackpad feels like a huge drawback.


>implying M1 MacBook Air has bad keyboard

You would have a point if he was replacing something like 2019 Macbook Pro with the butterfly switches


Thinkpad keyboards have been pretty bad for a few generations now. My old T470's keyboard flexed in the corners.


The last Thinkpad with a usable keyboard was a t420.


Lenovo warranty is fantastic.


What makes you think the Thinkpad in the linked article is still under warranty?


It might be. I used to order them for the business I worked for with 5 years on site warranty. Where I live that transfers with sale. T480 was sold into early 2019, so that would end the last warranty around early 2024.


Would you really replace the screen yourself on a laptop that's still under warranty?


They provide you with instructions, I don't think it voids warranty.


Be that as it may, the author is in Australia. All MacBooks have minimum 2 years warranty.

Display recently died on my MacBook Pro (M1 Max). Having to talk to a Genius rather than being able to book in the service online or via phone was infuriating. However, aside from that, warranty repair process was a breeze. They confirmed with me that all replacent parts have a minimum of three years warranty from the date of replacement.

I get that consumer protection laws suck or are nonexistent elsewhere in the world, but since the author is in Australia this laptop replacement makes even less sense.


was* in Australia.


Their everything is covered enterprise warranty does not cover roadside bombs in war zones :) That was an interesting call with some of our auditors in Bagdad... Thank goodness for online backup software.


That depends entirely on where you are in the world. In Canada, for example, the (consumer) Lenovo service centre used to be notorious for taking weeks (three was common, I've heard as much as seven) to return machines, and for providing essentially no feedback on the machine's status until they handed you the tracking number for the return shipment. Their warranty may be fantastic, but it's utterly pointless if they won't act on it in a timely fashion.

(I say “used to be”, because between this and Superfish, I've been telling everyone I know not to buy new Lenovo products for years, so admittedly, I have no recent data points.)




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: