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Maybe I'm missing something in your comment here, but - Python and Ruby already have smooth dev server installs. In fact, much smoother than PHP, as you don't need apache or fancy permissions to just run something local.

Ruby, rails: "rails server" Ruby, sinatra: "ruby <sinatra script>" Python, django: "python manage.py runserver"

All of these spin up an app server on some port > 1024. I'm honestly not sure how it can get much easier than that.



Start as J. Random Noob: they need to install python, virtualenv, etc. before learning how to create a module, create multiple config files and so forth.

Technically PHP isn't much easier if you need to compile it, configure Apache, etc. but in practice they just pay $1/mo for a crappy hosted account where they simply upload a file and start fiddling.

This is a trivial distinction for a professional developer but there are quite a few PHP users who started with a personal homepage and grew from there – and despite the stereotype, they're not all designers, either. That's why I like the Rails.app idea: give today's bright 13-year-old a nice, easy path to getting something visible and let them get hooked before they need to learn all of this other stuff.


Yeah, sorry I was unclear. In this case I was trying to get it working on a VPS.

The local stuff was indeed nice and simple.




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