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Funny, I don't see it as a moral thing but more a "what can you get away with" thing.

I fully assume that if I was to post a magnet link to a torrent for whatever the link was about, I would be banned.

Morally speaking, I think it's perfectly reasonable to download a copy of something and either read the relevant info for my current task or to sample it to decide if I want to buy it. I see it no different to using the library or browsing at a book store.

Perhaps once news organisations can work out how to effectively wield the DMCA hammer against archive links we'll see the practice of posting them stop.



I’d argue that morality always has a “what can you get away with” component. Things that are normalized tend to be seen as morally permissible, and things that are seen as abnormal are more likely to be seen as immoral.

The problem with the thinking in the root comment is that it implicitly assumes that people’s behavior is morally consistent, or that they even try particularly hard to behave in a morally consistent way. That’s not really how people work. If you ask them to discuss morality in the abstract, they’ll try to come up with a consistent system. But their actual behavior is mostly dictated by social norms. And if you try to pin them down on the morality of their concrete actions, they’re more likely to stretch their moral system to accommodate their actions than the other way around.

None of this is to say anything about my own opinions on news sharing or OpenAI’s situation. It’s just that someone decrying piracy but also posting/sharing/upvoting links to copies of news articles is neither surprising, nor indicative of some deeper nuance to how people view morality around IP.


So downloading a movie from piratebay is no different to using the library?


In some jurisdictions (Poland, possibly whole of EU), downloading any kind of materials - be it movies, books or music - is legal. Uploading/sharing - if not between friends&family members - not so.




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