Sorry, I'm a bit confused. Before we point fingers to look at others, mind clarifying a few things for me?
These are honest and serious questions, if you feel more comfortable talking by email I welcome it.
Are you saying:
- All belief systems are identical, incomplete and short sighted as the one you are speaking of?
- How much of what you believe is based on judging your own experience with one belief system and applying it to every other belief system?
- Have you actually learnt about each belief system yourself?
- Is there no other way to see things except how you see them right now?
- Is there no way anything can exist outside of your understanding?
- People compartmentalize themselves but it's different if you compartmentalize anyone who has a belief you don't agree with?
- There is no interpretation of any teaching that is remotely religious or spiritual that could have any scientific backing
- If a particular experience of a group involves a bible or a dogma, any other group that doesn't have a bible or dogma is as well painted with the same brush?
If you're curious where I'm coming from I'll try to clarify up front. I'm not a particularly religious or non-religious person. I don't have a clue what kind of trauma you've been through with the bible or religious dogma as it's not a belief system I've first hand experienced. I guess one could say my religion is curiosity that leads me to have insight on myself.
Fanatics look the same to me when they say their way is the right and only way.
I'm not talking about one particular belief system, just organized religions that have religious doctrines or bibles that contradict themselves, contain logical impossibilities, or scientific inaccuracies. That covers most of the mainstream religions, but I'm sure you could gerrymander your own personal belief system to avoid my definition. I don't claim they're identical, just that they're wrong because it's logically impossible to be true. And my point is that there are some programmers who understand logic and should be able to think their way out of believing logically impossible dogmas, but they don't, because they're mentally compartmentalized and intellectually dishonest.
Brendan Eich for example should be smart and logical enough to figure out that gay people marrying don't effect his own marriage or harm society. Yet he gave $1000 to the Proposition 8 campaign which successfully overturned the right to gay marriage in California, so his money had a negative effect on real people's lives. And that rightfully pissed off a lot of his co-workers and community.
"Brendan Eich’s actions are homophobic and disappointing.
Want to know why it is disappointing? Frankly, I expect more from techie programmer types. Being bullied mercilessly for being a spotty, out-of-shape loser who prefers Star Trek to sports usually helps instill some solidarity. As the Jargon File puts it: “Hackerdom easily tolerates a much wider range of sexual and lifestyle variation than the mainstream culture.” You have to be reasonably intelligent to do well in the programming game, and usually people become pretty critical and questioning and skeptical in the process, and outgrow the bigotry (even if they do occasionally have social awkwardness and cluelessness).
It is disappointing when that doesn’t turn out to be as true as one thought."
These are honest and serious questions, if you feel more comfortable talking by email I welcome it.
Are you saying:
- All belief systems are identical, incomplete and short sighted as the one you are speaking of?
- How much of what you believe is based on judging your own experience with one belief system and applying it to every other belief system?
- Have you actually learnt about each belief system yourself?
- Is there no other way to see things except how you see them right now?
- Is there no way anything can exist outside of your understanding?
- People compartmentalize themselves but it's different if you compartmentalize anyone who has a belief you don't agree with?
- There is no interpretation of any teaching that is remotely religious or spiritual that could have any scientific backing
- If a particular experience of a group involves a bible or a dogma, any other group that doesn't have a bible or dogma is as well painted with the same brush?
If you're curious where I'm coming from I'll try to clarify up front. I'm not a particularly religious or non-religious person. I don't have a clue what kind of trauma you've been through with the bible or religious dogma as it's not a belief system I've first hand experienced. I guess one could say my religion is curiosity that leads me to have insight on myself.
Fanatics look the same to me when they say their way is the right and only way.