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Same here.

TOTP is trivially phishable via evil nginx just like your password, and via social engineering.

FIDO2 is not phishable and you have no secret to give out to social engineering attacks.



> TOTP is trivially phishable . . . via social engineering

Is it? I've been on the Internet since the 80s and haven't been phished a single time (despite being the recipient of many obvious attempts). Maybe I could be phished, but I think that's evidence it's not trivial.

I have to wonder how many people sophisticated enough to use and pay for a password manager like Bitwarden could be "trivially" phished.


That's great for you, but also a sample size of one (probably technically sophisticated) user, i.e. irrelevant to the bigger picture.

The phishability of TOTP really is exactly as bad as that of passwords, except that a once-phished TOTP isn't reusable by the attacker(s), unlike a phished password.

But even one-time access is often catastrophic, especially if it allows the attacker to rotate credentials.




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