No amigo, no artist out there made a japanese song on my anime obsessed schoolteacher friend and his life.
When he received that song from me, he was super excited for next 3-5 days and still listens to it and flexes them to their friends.
Same thing happened with a lot of my other friends and me too, I have an apple shortcut script that generates songs for me daily based on my routine for that day pulled from todoist.com
I still listen to and pay for others music and songs, but this experience with AI is entirely different.
What I pay for is not avoiding effort of finding what suits me but creating what suits me.
> You receive some music matching your request from a service offered by an entity which aims to control as much of content creation and distribution as possible, up to total monopolization.
What I receive is a high fidelity song made from prompts that i’m given full ownership of , when pooled at scale between all users allows people to make their own song generators with GPUs.
Its very nature is the opposite of monopoly. I’d love to hear how you think the big 3 corps (Universal, Sony, etc) who own all the music almost globally are not a monopoly ?
Never had an experience where your spotify or apple music streaming albums disappear randomly due to those big 3 corps ?
My friend’s song of himself will never disappear that mp3 file he can store on a pen drive, load ig anywhere, gift to anyone. How is that the “monopoly” ?
> when pooled at scale between all users allows people to make their own song generators with GPUs.
I can assure you, local generation is to become a fringe activity, same as self-hosting web services, only worse, because the quality gap (which in case of software is often negligible) will be insurmountable.
> I’d love to hear how you think the big 3 corps (Universal, Sony, etc) who own all the music almost globally are not a monopoly?
It's not a monopoly, it's a cartel. Luckily, they don't own everything, though, too much they do.
> no artist out there made a japanese song on my anime obsessed schoolteacher friend and his life.
Ok, what you describe is commissioning. Yeah, you can't argue with the fact it now can be done almost free and is becoming good enough for most, but you have to keep in mind, this process had been feeding a considerable amount of artists who do it to keep producing their art. Cutting this source of income is not wrong per se, but the consequences are the opposite of supporting the diversity and abundance in arts.
> but the consequences are the opposite of supporting the diversity and abundance in arts.
I made 5 songs about 5 different people in a week, with carefully crafted lyrics and tones described by me in the custom prompt, that led to 10 mp3 files of songs (suno generates 2 songs per prompt)
Those songs are out there, it’s different, it’s not sloppy it’s actually quite enjoyable.
Now there is more diversity and abundance those songs wouldn’t have existed without AI and there are millions doing it like me out there, those artists who produce songs also have same tools as me, they can be better than me, faster, better, more albums now made by them, edit stuff to perfection, ideate and iterate faster. Who is stopping them ?
This is in replacement of me and my friends listening to their same 20-40 artists who would be in billboards list each month.
Tell me it has hurt the abundance and diversity of songs out there, that it stopped someone from making their own thing or others listening to their songs, I listen to that song, it’s made by someone else with AI, I don’t mind, it’s awesome !
You didn't make anything, aside from whatever lyrics, if any, you wrote yourself.
The song is adequate. The beat, drop, and chords are not that complicated, you could've learned how to do that yourself and not be chained to suno or whatever.
I would be delighted if a friend took the time to personally write and produce a song about me. I would not care at all if I realized it was just auto-generated stuff being pumped out "5x per week". The former I would cherish, the latter would be disposable junk to be listened to once and then forgotten about.
It's slop because it doesn't mean anything or has any value, not because it's literally sloppy.
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"listening to their same 20-40 artists who would be in billboards list each month"
That's a you problem, quite literally a skill issue. There are so many indie artists making wonderful music that's leagues better than whatever hyper-distilled swill is on the radio at the moment.
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"tell me it has hurt the abundance and diversity of songs out there"
Actual artists who make music composition and production their career ARE hurt when they can't find jobs/gigs/commissions because of things like suno. These tools are predicated on wholesale theft of music produced by humans.
But you can generate disposable songs at breakneck pace that don't mean anything, so it doesn't matter.
What that service generates for you is content, it's not art. I don't understand how you can mix one for the other. The only artistic creative process happening is you making a prompt and reiterating. You're free to disagree, but I posit it's not nearly enough to qualify.
> Tell me this song is trash and slop
As you wish.
What I argue is not about "diversity of songs", but that's this "AI" revolution strives to further the process of replacing the arts with commodity substitutes. It will be sleek, shiny, comforting, friendly and, possibly, enjoyable, but it's almost worthless in itself.
I'm sorry but that song you posted is the most generic, bland garbage that imitates the literally millions of other pop songs they stole in their training sets. It sounds like Charlie xcx without any of the actual creativity, and the actual track itself you could learn how to make yourself with FL Studio in about half an hour following one of the many tutorials out there.
if a song style gets imitated a million times that speaks to how good a particular track is, people dont imitate trash.
Also it took me 30 seconds to generate it, instead of 7 days of learning and debugging sound studio tools (which i dont have time for, i need to work daily too)
So No, you’re only speaking from emotions, not from a place of reality.
When he received that song from me, he was super excited for next 3-5 days and still listens to it and flexes them to their friends.
Same thing happened with a lot of my other friends and me too, I have an apple shortcut script that generates songs for me daily based on my routine for that day pulled from todoist.com
I still listen to and pay for others music and songs, but this experience with AI is entirely different.
What I pay for is not avoiding effort of finding what suits me but creating what suits me.
> You receive some music matching your request from a service offered by an entity which aims to control as much of content creation and distribution as possible, up to total monopolization.
What I receive is a high fidelity song made from prompts that i’m given full ownership of , when pooled at scale between all users allows people to make their own song generators with GPUs.
Its very nature is the opposite of monopoly. I’d love to hear how you think the big 3 corps (Universal, Sony, etc) who own all the music almost globally are not a monopoly ? Never had an experience where your spotify or apple music streaming albums disappear randomly due to those big 3 corps ?
My friend’s song of himself will never disappear that mp3 file he can store on a pen drive, load ig anywhere, gift to anyone. How is that the “monopoly” ?