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When two companies collude like AT&T and Apple, it's hard to determine who is at fault. Might as well blame them both.

But, does anyone who's not from the US have anything to say about this? Are the networks that carry the iPhone in Europe and Asia as evil as AT&T?



If you buy it here without 3g support it costs 896 dls (only the iphone and a phone line). If you buy it with a 3g plan the cheapest plan costs 46 dls per month and an extra cost for the iphone (597).

Of course the service is bad, we don't have all the nice features like in USA or Europe (because of the old service provided).

So here in Mexico the problem is not Apple, AT&T, etc, but the carrier (Telcel). The Iphone is useless here, excepto as phone and mp3 player, and sometimes for bad surfing.


By using the word 'collude' you are implying that AT&T and Apple are acting illicitly. While I do find their actions extremely objectionable I doubt any of this is illegal.


Mirriam-Webster disagrees in that collude necessary implies illegality:

Collude: Definition: conspire, plot <colluded to keep prices high>

Collusion: Definition: secret agreement or cooperation, especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose.


Indeed. I intended to convey a secret cooperation that is not beneficial to their customers.


I didn't say that it was illegal; I said it implied it. I'm not sure how much more firmly it can be said so I'll just repeat what you already pasted: _especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose_


I really look forward to the day when HN's free-market, all-government-intervention-is-evil ideologues finally collide with the "I don't like what Apple did, so it should be outlawed" brigade.

I shall bring popcorn.




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